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Not sure why window licker mango, ol beatitoff and xfly especially since they live in different countries want to be Russian trolls and spread false propaganda and believe the MSM that lies to them for years and years
I’m sure they are just miserable old men as one he stated


Touched on this earlier

"An N-95 mask filters out particulate matter larger than .3 microns. So the question then is how big is a COVID particle. A COVID particle is about .1 micron....this idea of people doing anything particularly useful w...a mask is just LOONEY TUNES." - Sen. Dr. Scott Jenson, M.D.

“From the New England Journal of Medicine on masks for COVID: "We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection."

From the US Department of Labor, on surgical masks for COVID: "Will not protect the wearer against airborne transmissible infectious agents due to loose fit and lack of seal or inadequate filtration."


From "Inside Surgery," a premier surgeon's journal, in 2009 during the swine flu outbreak, in an article titled "Standard Surgical Masks Do Not Protect Wearer From Getting Swine Flu." "For the prevention of transmission of swine flu this type of mask is ESSENTIALLY WORTHLESS.

“you believe COVID fatality numbers that Western govts & the mainstream media give you at face-value, you're not thinking at all. "Individuals who have died with COVID-19, but not as a result of COVID-19 are included in the case counts for COVID-19”

“The "droplet" argument for wearing masks is basically just uninformed. It's a nice idea until you look at the research & how porous masks are. "Surgical masks will NOT block aerosolized particles AS SMALL AS A DROPLET CONTAINING INFLUENZA VIRIONS."

“It's a serious problem to compare Asia w the West to justify masks. Asia & the West approach it completely differently. COVID is politicized in the West to ratchet up fear, justify lockdowns & as a left anti-Trump campaign. Asia wants to MINIMIZE it, even in just appearance.”

China has given questionably low COVID numbers, while the US does the OPPOSITE. The West's (incl Europe) politics bleed into $$$. Western hospitals get paid MORE for COVID deaths. NOT in Asia. "COVID-19 had been incentivized."

Why “face mask don’t work” in Oral Health Journal: "Traditionally face masks have been recommended to protect...from the 'DROPLET' route of infection....[BUT] neither the filter performance nor the facial fit...qualify them as being devices which protect against respiratory infections."


"Masks were INCAPABLE of filtering out 80-85% of particles varying in size from .3 to 2.0 (!) microns....the filter material of face masks does NOT retain or filter to viruses or other submicron particles.”

“The primary reason for mandating...face masks is to protect dental personnel from airborne pathogens. This review has established that face masks are INCAPABLE of providing such....protection. Unless the CDC [et all] admit this, they will be GUILTY OF PERPETUATING A MYTH."

Between 2004 & 2016 at least a dozen research or review articles have been published on the inadequacies of face masks. All agree that the poor facial fit & limited filtration...of face masks make them unable to prevent the wearer inhaling airborne particles."

For Xfly. “The Canadian Centre for Occupational Health & Safety in 2016: "The filter material of surgical masks does not retain or filter out submicron particles [COVID-19 is .1 micron, thus a submicron]."

“Dr. Leonie Walker, Principal Researcher of the New Zealand Nurses Organization: "There are no convincing scientific data that support the effectiveness of masks for respiratory protection [against influenza]. The masks we use are not designed for such purposes."

For those claiming N-95 offer more protection than surgical or other masks, there are studies & meta-studies (studies that compile MULTIPLE studies) that show that in fact, N-95 masks (which filter 95% of .3 microns+) are as helpless against viral-sized particles (.1 microns)”





 

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Blanton's and a good cigar tonight and tee time at 9:30 tomorrow

mango, x and MBIO , back for more education after tomorrow round

stay safe and healthy America
 
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“From the New England Journal of Medicine on masks for COVID: "We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection."



As usual, you are wrong. That's an undocumented, out of context, quote from this article:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372

And the authors of that article, who are pro mask, explain the meaning of that quote here:

"We understand that some people are citing our Perspective article (published on April 1 at NEJM.org)1 as support for discrediting widespread masking. In truth, the intent of our article was to push for more masking, not less. It is apparent that many people with SARS-CoV-2 infection are asymptomatic or presymptomatic yet highly contagious and that these people account for a substantial fraction of all transmissions.2,3 Universal masking helps to prevent such people from spreading virus-laden secretions, whether they recognize that they are infected or not.4"

"We did state in the article that “wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection,” but as the rest of the paragraph makes clear, we intended this statement to apply to passing encounters in public spaces, not sustained interactions within closed environments. A growing body of research shows that the risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission is strongly correlated with the duration and intensity of contact: the risk of transmission among household members can be as high as 40%, whereas the risk of transmission from less intense and less sustained encounters is below 5%.5-7 This finding is also borne out by recent research associating mask wearing with less transmission of SARS-CoV-2, particularly in closed settings.8 We therefore strongly support the calls of public health agencies for all people to wear masks when circumstances compel them to be within 6 ft of others for sustained periods."

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2020836

Busted.
 

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It doesnt matter if you have facts, you didn't bold anything in large font, or use black and white pictures, so it's unlikely that these old timers can read it.

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Most likely the truth lies somewhere in the middle but the division on the subject is defenitely something the talking heads want.

The scary thing about all of it, no matter what side you are on is that the people that are supposed to be protecting us and giving us correct information have lied to us at one point or another
Example DR Fauci telling us at the beginning mask do not help ( He told us this so that people wouldn't go out and buy mask and have a shortage) you can look at this either way (protecting healthcare workers putting citizens in dangers) but the fact is he lied to protect an intrest.

So now all we have is conflicting information that we need to sift through to form our opinions and everyones will be different. Tough times
 

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As usual, you are wrong. That's an undocumented, out of context, quote from this article:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372

And the authors of that article, who are pro mask, explain the meaning of that quote here:

"We understand that some people are citing our Perspective article (published on April 1 at NEJM.org)1 as support for discrediting widespread masking. In truth, the intent of our article was to push for more masking, not less. It is apparent that many people with SARS-CoV-2 infection are asymptomatic or presymptomatic yet highly contagious and that these people account for a substantial fraction of all transmissions.2,3 Universal masking helps to prevent such people from spreading virus-laden secretions, whether they recognize that they are infected or not.4"

"We did state in the article that “wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection,” but as the rest of the paragraph makes clear, we intended this statement to apply to passing encounters in public spaces, not sustained interactions within closed environments. A growing body of research shows that the risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission is strongly correlated with the duration and intensity of contact: the risk of transmission among household members can be as high as 40%, whereas the risk of transmission from less intense and less sustained encounters is below 5%.5-7 This finding is also borne out by recent research associating mask wearing with less transmission of SARS-CoV-2, particularly in closed settings.8 We therefore strongly support the calls of public health agencies for all people to wear masks when circumstances compel them to be within 6 ft of others for sustained periods."

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2020836

Busted.

so out in public below 5%

in your house as high as 40%

so no reason to wear a mask

thanks for the update X
 

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Shopping doesn’t take a sustained amount of time and your not spending it in close intense contact


Mask don’t work
 

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Of course X , of course. Stay around for lesson II.
You are dumb as fuck.
It’s funny that you troll everyone around here calling them dumb, when it’s blatantly obvious most of them are smarter than you are. You can’t even construct a proper sentence and you have over 20k posts.
 

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You are dumb as fuck.
It’s funny that you troll everyone around here calling them dumb, when it’s blatantly obvious most of them are smarter than you are. You can’t even construct a proper sentence and you have over 20k posts.

Lmao
 

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You are dumb as fuck.
It’s funny that you troll everyone around here calling them dumb, when it’s blatantly obvious most of them are smarter than you are. You can’t even construct a proper sentence and you have over 20k posts.

He doesn't have time. He only writes between beach houses or rounds of golf. ;)
 

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Says worthless dogshit. Don’t get upset ! Wear a mask if u fee the need, u should if old and underlying health issues
 

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Says worthless dogshit. Don’t get upset ! Wear a mask if u fee the need, u should if old and underlying health issues

Masks don't protect you. They protect others from you. So if you want to protect someone who is old with underlying health issues. Then YOU should wear a mask.
 

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